Tuesday, July 12, 2011

People who hate ambiga please read this please read until bottom dun have assumptions


TUNTUTAN AMBIGA MELALUI IFC

1. Seseorang anak yang dilahirkan oleh ibu bapa Islam tidak seharusnya secara terus menjadi orang Islam.

2. Orang bukan Islam yang telah memeluk Islam hendaklah diberikan kebebasan untuk kembali ke agama asal mereka (murtad) dan tidak boleh... dikenakan tindakan undang-undang.

3. Sebarang kes pertukaran agama orang Islam kepada bukan Islam tidak sepatutnya dikendalikan oleh Mahkamah Syariah tetapi dikendalikan oleh Mahkamah Sivil.

4. Tidak perlu dicatatkan di dalam kad pengenalan seseorang Muslim bahawa ia beragama Islam.

5. Orang bukan Islam tidak perlu dikehendaki menganut Islam sekiranya ingin berkahwin dengan Orang Islam,Orang Islam hendaklah dibenarkan keluar daripada Islam (murtad) sekiranya ingin berkahwin dengan orang bukan Islam tanpa boleh dikenakan tindakan undang-undang.

6. Seseorang atau pasangan suami isteri yang menukar agamanya dengan memeluk Islam tidak patut diberikan hak penjagaan anak.

7. Orang yang bukan Islam yang mempunyai hubungan kekeluargaan dengan seorang yang memeluk Islam hendaklah diberikan hak menuntut harta pusakanya selepas kematiannya.

8. Kerajaan hendaklah menyediakan dana yang mencukupi untuk membina dan menyelenggara rumah-rumah ibadat orang bukan Islam sebagaimana kerajaan menyediakan dana yang serupa untuk masjid.

9. Orang bukan Islam hendaklah dibenarkan dan tidak boleh dihalang daripada menggunakan perkataan-perkataan suci Islam dalam percakapan dan sebagainya.

10. Bibel dalam Bahasa Malaysia dan Bahasa Indonesia sepatutnya dibenarkan untuk diedarkan kepada umum secara terbuka.

11. Pelajaran agama bukan Islam untuk penganut agama itu hendaklah diajar di semua sekolah.

12. Program-program berunsur Islam dalam bahasa ibunda sesuatu kaum hendaklah ditiadakan. Program dakwah agama lain selain Islam pula hendaklah dibenarkan untuk disiarkan dalam bahasa ibunda masing-masing.

13. Orang Islam yang membayar zakat tidak sepatutnya dikecualikan daripada membayar cukai pendapatan dan wang Hasil zakat sepatutnya digunakan juga untuk keperluan orang-orang bukan Islam.

14. Sepatutnya Islam tidak disebut sebagai pilihan pertama masyarakat Malaysia seperti dalam soal pakaian menutup aurat kepada pelajar sekolah.


Inilah perjuangan Ambiga yang sedang mendapat sokongan daripada orang Islam PAS dan PKR di dalam Negara kita hari ini. Kalau inilah yang kita mahukan,marilah kita menyatakan sokongan tanpa berbelah bagi kepada Ambiga dan IFC.Maruah Melayu Islam di bawah tapak kaki si Hindu Ambiga!
By: Abdul Shukur Mohamad

This is a very popular post by pro goverment supporters in the social network website ,my view on this post

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What Ambiga is telling is on her point of view , for me my my religion is the biggest , for you your religion is the biggest she is asking something from her point of view , what she is expressing is right in the international view but it is not accepted in a Islamic country , that should not be accepted, no matter your a muslim or not , a pro goverment supporter or not ,i admit that what she requested cant be accepted in a an islamic state , it may sound unfair for you non muslims , i personally think that the post'Orang yang bukan Islam yang mempunyai hubungan kekeluargaan dengan seorang yang memeluk Islam hendaklah diberikan hak menuntut harta pusakanya selepas kematiannya." , for example a married indian hindu mans marries a indonesian woman and leave his wife and family for the sake of pleasure , and the woman is bad and only seduced the man for his wealth , and after a few years he dies and all his wealth goes to the evil woman does this mean justice has prevail , so in my personal opinion she should have changed it to "A converted has the right to name a non muslim kin to his wealth , if he wishes to ' .

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Secondly '8. Kerajaan hendaklah menyediakan dana yang mencukupi untuk membina dan menyelenggara rumah-rumah ibadat orang bukan Islam sebagaimana kerajaan menyediakan dana yang serupa untuk masjid.Is it wrong for her to ask her place of worship given the same treatment as a muslim person . This is a Islamic Country but it also democratic , she have all rights to ask this , people who view in a negative perceptive , please open your eyes

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Orang bukan Islam hendaklah dibenarkan dan tidak boleh dihalang daripada menggunakan perkataan-perkataan suci Islam dalam percakapan dan sebagainya.

If the non muslims are using in the need for sharing knowledge and not using it in a negative view , what is wrong , any person who misuse the language should be arrested under ISA , i 100 percent support it Q.If a kaafir greets a Muslim, should he return his greeting? If he holds out his hand to shake hands, what is the ruling? And what is the ruling on serving him by giving him tea when he is sitting in a chair?.

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Praise be to Allaah.

Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

If a kaafir greets a Muslim in a clear manner, and says, “Al-salaamu ‘alaykum (peace be upon you),” then one should say, “Wa ‘alayka al-salaam (and upon you be peace),” because Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“When you are greeted with a greeting, greet in return with what is better than it, or (at least) return it equally”

[al-Nisa’ 4:86]


but words such as god is not shall be used because may be the meaning of Allah is God in english but do you notice that the word God is generic and the word Allah is a proper name. To non Muslims do u notice when our muslim friends use the phrase la ilaha illallah it is not there is no god but God, this does not make sense, rather it means there is no god but Allah.So for non Muslims who feel its unfair to put you in a better image Allah is something like Jesus for christians , in a tamil version of a bible you cant replace the word jesus as allah , there will be a mass confusion

10) Why not bible is available in Bahasa Melayu , Bahasa Melayu is a language it is not a religion

11) This is also a fair deal , why not , why should be classifies as Pendidikan Moral , why cant they allow students to learn their own religion

12) I do not accept because it sound bias

13)This is not right any donations made is tax exempted so why not zakat , and the second she says zakat can be used for non muslims its not logic because its like you donated for building of a church and then you use the money to build a temple

14)I personally will change it to all students are allowed to wear their traditional wear on fridays .

This is a a very popular post by pro goverment supporters , the source might be reliable and not be reliable , in Wikipedia it states that Acting in her capacity as President of the Malaysian Bar Council, Ambiga accepted a memorandum on the formation of an inter-faith commission, which also made 14 demands , she did not demand it , but since i saw this post a lot i just wanted to give my own opinion in this issue. At the same time they used the world di bawah si hindu ambiga , which shows their racism , we do not know wether this source is reliable or not , but using this kind of post to manipulate our muslim brothers and sister is very unfair , if a person do 10 good things , and 1 bad thing , only the bad thing is remembered , Bersih had nothing to do with muslims , so why linking it with religion

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